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Each week, listeners are invited to join Peter as he covers topics like the Ukraine War, the war in Gaza, the Pentagon’s long and schizophrenic relationship with UFOs, a rare peek inside the FBI’s unit that is trying to prevent mass shootings, and a tour of the CIA’s secret museum. He interviews top experts and leaders like U.S. Army General David Petraeus, Jen Easterly, who leads U.S. efforts to prevent cyberattacks, former U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton, U.S. Deputy Homeland Security Advisor Josh Geltzer, CNN Chief International Correspondent Clarissa Ward, Sir Lawrence Freedman, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Lord Andrew Roberts, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Christine Abizaid, Admiral William “Bill” McRaven and leading authors like Patrick Radden Keefe, Elizabeth Kolbert, David Sanger, Fareed Zaharia, and Anne Applebaum.

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Well executed German radio doc on the hunt for bin Laden

https://www1.wdr.de/mediathek/audio/zeitzeichen/audio-schuesse-auf-den-terrorfuersten-das-ende-von-bin-laden-100.html

Schüsse auf den Terrorfürsten: Das Ende von bin Laden WDR Zeitzeichen 02.05.2026 14:52 Min. Verfügbar bis 02.05.2099 WDR 5Zehn Jahre dauert die Suche nach Osama bin Laden, Führer der Terrorgruppe al-Qaida. und Drahtzieher von 9/11. Am 2.5.2011 tötet ihn ein US-Kommando beim Sturm auf sein Versteck in Pakistan.In diesem Zeitzeichen erzählt Martin Herzog, wie die Fahndung nach Osama bin Laden zur teuersten Verbrecherjagd der Geschichte wird und welche Risiken US-Präsident Barack Obama mit dem Zugriff eingeht. Nach den Anschlägen vom 11. September ruft George W. Bush den “Krieg gegen Terror” aus. Im Zentrum steht Osama bin Laden, Sohn eines saudischen Milliardärs und Anführer der Terrororganisation al-Qaida. Seine Spur verliert sich bereits nach wenigen Monaten in den afghanisch-pakistanischen Bergen. Zehn Jahre brauchen die US-Spezialeinheiten, um ihn schließlich in einer schlichten Wohnanlage in Pakistan aufzuspüren. Dort töten sie ihn. In der westlichen Welt wird die Nachricht vielfach mit Genugtuung aufgenommen, das Kapitel 11. September scheint beendet. Menschenrechtler sehen den Zugriff hingegen als Hinrichtung, weil Osama bin Laden ohne Rechtsverfahren getötet wurde. Das sind unsere wichtigsten Interviewpartner: Peter Bergen, US-Journalist und Buchautor (CNN) Wolfgang Kaleck, Rechtsanwalt, European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, Berlin Welches Thema sollen wir im Zeitzeichen recherchieren? Gibt es Kritik oder Lob? Gerne her damit: Einfach schreiben an zeitzeichen@wdr.de Wir freuen uns auch über Bewertungen auf der Podcast-Plattform des Vertrauens! Diese und viele weitere Folgen vom WDR Zeitzeichen findet ihr in ARD Sounds und überall da, wo es Podcasts gibt: https://kurz.wdr.de/podcastpicker-zeitzeichen Die Macher hinter diesem Zeitzeichen: Autor: Martin Herzog Redaktion: Frank Zirpins In diesem Zeitzeichen erzählt Martin Herzog: wie die Fahndung nach Osama bin Laden zur teuersten Verbrecherjagd der Geschichte wird, dass die Suche nach ihm erschwert wird, weil er kein Telefon und kein Internet nutzt, welche Risiken US-Präsident Barack Obama mit dem Zugriff eingeht, ob die Erschießung eine “extralegale” Tötung gewesen ist. Nach den Anschlägen vom 11. September ruft George W. Bush den “Krieg gegen Terror” aus. Im Zentrum steht Osama bin Laden, Sohn eines saudischen Milliardärs und Anführer der Terrororganisation al-Qaida. Seine Spur verliert sich bereits nach wenigen Monaten in den afghanisch-pakistanischen Bergen. Zehn Jahre brauchen die US-Spezialeinheiten, um ihn schließlich in einer schlichten Wohnanlage in Pakistan aufzuspüren. Dort töten sie ihn. In der westlichen Welt wird die Nachricht vielfach mit Genugtuung aufgenommen, das Kapitel 11. September scheint beendet. Menschenrechtler sehen den Zugriff hingegen als Hinrichtung, weil Osama bin Laden ohne Rechtsverfahren getötet wurde. Das sind unsere wichtigsten Quellen und Interviewpartner: Peter Bergen, US-Journalist und Buchautor (CNN) Wolfgang Kaleck, Rechtsanwalt, European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, Berlin Peter L. Bergen: Die Jagd auf Osama bin Laden. Eine Enthüllungsgeschichte. Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt, München 2012 Weiterführende Links: Zeitzeichen: 11.09.2001 – Die Terroranschläge auf das World Trade Center und das Pentagon Zeitzeichen: 11.08.1988 – Gründung des Terrornetzwerks al-Qaida Welches Thema sollen wir im Zeitzeichen recherchieren? Gibt es Kritik oder Lob? Gerne her damit: Einfach schreiben an zeitzeichen@wdr.de Wir freuen uns auch über Bewertungen auf der Podcast-Plattform des Vertrauens! Diese und viele weitere Folgen vom WDR Zeitzeichen findet ihr in ARD Sounds und überall da, wo es Podcasts gibt. Die Macher hinter diesem Zeitzeichen: Autor: Martin Herzog Redaktion: Frank Zirpins

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Eoisode 81

How Do You End An Endless War?

December 17, 2024
In the annals of violent conflict, the decades of the “Troubles” in Northern Ireland seemed especially intractable. As the long-running strife flares violently again between Israelis and Palestinians, two negotiators of the astonishing and lasting peace agreement in Northern Ireland in the late 1990s, Monica McWilliams and John Alderdice, explain what it takes to get people to sit down with their enemies and whether the path to peace in Northern Ireland offers a way forward for the Middle East.

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Episode 87

Is A New Nuclear Arms Race Inevitable?

Jan 28 2025
Very quietly, and with little public discussion, the U.S. military has undertaken a $1.5 trillion project to modernize America’s nuclear triad – the planes, submarines and missiles that deliver nuclear weapons. It’s one of the biggest and most expensive projects in American military history – more costly, even, than the Manhattan Project. But how necessary is this modernization effort? And what message does it send to our nuclear adversaries?

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Episode 86

How the CIA got into the Venture Capital Game

With the rise of technology in the late 1990s, a new national security threat quickly emerged. And the U.S. government had to find a way to protect itself — and its secrets — from foreign adversaries and cybercriminals. It needed the cutting-edge technologies coming out of Silicon Valley, from startups that had never done business with the government — and probably didn’t see much reason to. Enter In-Q-Tel, a non-profit venture capital firm designed to fund innovations that would meet U.S. intelligence needs. Twenty-five years later, the firm now sits on approximately $1 billion in assets. What is this strange, secretive VC firm? How does it work? And what value does it deliver to ordinary Americans? Sue Gordon, a career intelligence official and one of its founders, tells us all about it on Audible.

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Episode 85

What Can You Expect From President Trump’s Foreign Policy?

Jan 14 2025
Financial Times columnist Ed Luce says President Donald Trump might love trade wars, but he’d rather not engage in military ones. While he acknowledges there’s a lot that’s unpredictable, Luce is cautiously optimistic that with unpredictability there can also be opportunity, including for peace deals. So, what might U.S. foreign policy look like over the next four years?

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Episode 84

Trump Wants a Loyal FBI and Justice Department. Here’s How He Plans to Get it.

Narrated by: Peter L. Bergen
Jan 7 2025
Length: 31 mins
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In his first term, Donald Trump did more to politicize top U.S. law enforcement institutions than any U.S. President, according to journalist David Rohde. Through interviews with numerous people inside Trump’s term-one FBI and Justice Department, Rohde carefully documented the impact on the FBI and DOJ during Trump round one. Join us for a conversation about what he thinks is coming in round two.

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Episode 83

Was Jimmy Carter’s Foreign Policy Actually a Success?

Dec 31 2024
Length: 52 mins

The 39th president is remembered today with great affection. That hasn’t changed the popular perception of him as a failure while in office, weak and overwhelmed by events, and forever defined by the 444-day long debacle of the Iran hostage crisis. But is it time for another look—especially when it comes to the late president’s foreign policy record? Because with the passage of time, Jimmy Carter’s key initiatives abroad—from Central America to the Middle East, and with human rights at the center — are now looking more visionary by the day.

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Episode 80

Snatching Mega-Yachts and Blacklisting Banks: Do Sanctions Actually Work?

Narrated by: Peter L. Bergen
Dec 10 2024
Length: 34 mins

American Presidents have been addicted to international sanctions for much of the modern era, as a way to influence the behavior of other countries. Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Syria – all have been subject to U.S. sanctions over the past four decades. But these regimes remain as defiant of U.S. geostrategic goals as ever. This week we explore Russian yacht snatching, the impact of sanctions on the Iranian people, and how a once-obscure office inside the Treasury Department ended up putting a chokehold on national economies all over the world.

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Epidsode 79

Defund or Unleash: What Does Effective Policing Look Like?

Dec 3 2024
Length: 40 mins

In recent years, several high-profile abuses of power have fractured public trust in police and created a false tension between police accountability and public safety. But somewhere between a blanket defense of the police and “defund the police” lie effective solutions. Peter talks with three thoughtful, accomplished people who have worn the badge to find out what they’ve learned about what is broken in American policing, how to fix it, and whether some types of police work might be better left to someone else. (This episode contains strong language.)

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Episode 78:

The FBI’s Love Affair with Hollywood

Narrated by: Peter L. Bergen
Nov 26 2024
Length: 39 mins

The FBI has had a cozy relationship with Hollywood since the days of the Bureau’s first director, J. Edgar Hoover, working behind the scenes with filmmakers to burnish its image. We explore how the collaboration actually works, how extensive it is, and whether moviegoers are getting spoon-fed a sugar-coated version of the truth.

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